Tokenization Politics

Objective of this page :

Dante : I am particularly interested in understanding how political support functions in relation to tokens,

coming not only from communities using such tools,

but before the finished development of protocols involving tokens,

such as political support in the form of grants, as to understand various needs and how such political support may benefit what I see as a broader wealth tokenization movement ( whether for symetrical or asymetrical exchanges )

Wealth Tokenization and Currency Projects
as posted on :

http://groups.google.com/group/opencc/browse_thread/thread/76026d545bb26d76

10 march 20010, by Dante :

I want to check in this message if the impression I get, as a non-programmer, in relation to the meta-currency project is correct.

I have a bunch of interrogations, which may seem inter-related. I did not feel like cutting the links between certain questions so this mail may seem a bit lengthy.

I want to have a better perception of the explicit and implicit politics of potentially inclusive, or exclusive current processes in development related to the development and implementation of wealth tokenization protocols, of its marketing, and its potential emergence.

An understanding I have come to, through previous conversations with some of you, being that the meta currency project may have the potential of bringing together currency transformers, or wealth tokenization entre-donneurs, despite it, if I understood properly, being a specific separate software project, by enabling it to become some kind of api ?

There is a variety of currency software projects, and I am asking myself questions regarding the politics that potentially brings such projects together, to collaborate, or to distance each other. My understanding may be that the meta currency may serve as an api to various other currency softwares ?

I also question myself concerning a potential hyping I perceive regarding the meta currency, and ask myself if this is only my own perception, or if a shared perception, if it is created intentionally ?

What makes some people, such as Jean-Luc Roux, say that the meta currency project is "most advanced" ?

Is it most advanced in its architecture ? Most advanced in its development ? Most advanced in its notoriety ? And if it is most advanced through its architecture, is it because of its potential inclusiveness ?

If hyped, is it an intentional marketing strategy for the projects and grant applications that may be in the process ? , for which people such as Jean-Luc, Bernard and possibly others may be applying for ? - with all my respect for the inspiration and work they, and others I am cc ing made available to us till now, and what they can bring to the movements in terms of recognition.

Nothing bad per se, but I try to understand, and question potential consequences on alternative wealth tokenization movements and projects as a whole.

example : http://p2pfoundation.net/P2P_Exchange_Infrastructure_Projects

And if it is beneficial, does it intend to promote a basket of existing or developing ( open source, copylefted ? ) projects, or is there a invisible, undeclared "competition" between such wealth tokenization projects, even open source, api , projects ? ( I do not declare this is bad per se, but I try to understand its dynamics )

Where does the inclusiveness lie, other then the open source software development, and, as far as I understand it ( I may be wrong ), its potential as some kind of wealth tokenization systems api ?

I am aware I may want to discuss this through http://openmoney.ning.com/

of which a (related ? ) software project

http://projects.openmoney.info/

Hence, I wonder what you think about the meta currency project in its current form?

http://metacurrency.org/

I do notice an alpha release that can be tested on

http://flowplace.webnode.com/alpha/

I am very grateful for the work done on the meta currency project, especially as I personally do not have the programming skills to contribute to it, and I am looking forward to supporting its realization in other ways when possible.

This is why I am sending this message - I would personally not want the meta currency project to suffer in the future from current potential over hyping, marketing it as something it may not be ready for at the moment ?

I am also very grateful for work done by Jean-Francois Noubel, and hes conferences

Except that I sometimes feel that there is, currently, a potential contradiction between what may in some cases seem to be preached with what may be done.

I feel there is awareness about this, which perhaps may have lead Jean-Francois Noubel to write a Vow of Wealth - http://people.thetransitioner.org/profiles/blogs/vow-of-wealth, and which perhaps also made him change hes approach to asking or using resources lately ?

I have no problems with inconsistencies itself, as I have my own, and awareness in itself may be a first step on the roads me or others may choose for, but in this case what I focus on is potential "hyping"...

What may be the differences between what some of us may preach, and our actual experimentation with it ?

For example, when getting the impression that the meta currency project may be something that may already be operational, and hearing that other people may believe that the metacurrency project may be the most developed platform, I feel like verifying... Is it really so ?

I am certainly enthusiastic about such approaches, and experimented with distributed resource use optimization for a number of years, including through a nomadic hitch hiker lifestyle, but notice that there may still be great resistance from other people as in its current form I realize such approach may require a certain sacrifice at a material, social, etc level ( see maslow myramid ), and the tools that may potentially enable a form of emergence which may not require such sacrifice do not seem to be fully operational yet, which makes me weary of the way a "marketing approach" to such potential may be used...

How do you feel about it ?

Also see below, or online for Jean-Luc Roux public post on the r2ning...

Furthermore, I feel like adding I see a strong parallel, potential collaboration with, for example, the F2F platform, ( as compared to metacurrency "projects in progress" - see below ) ( Robin's pdf presentation of F2F : FF103 ; https://sourceforge.net/projects/friend2friend/. It needs PHP5, and matches the documentation at http://wiki.friend2friend.net ) concerning all the "projects in progress"...

Robin's tokenization is focused mainly on, as I understand it, requests in relation to reputation in a gift economics approach.

Cordially, Dante

http://hitchwiki.org/en/Dante

http://www.metacurrency.org/

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